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I have a site thats running with PHP & MySQL 4 that I would like to convert to frog but im not sure if it will work.

The site says the latest stable version is 0.2.2.

What are the exact requirements for frog 0.9.1 to work? Will it work with a server running PHP & MySQL 4? Does frog still need InnoDB to work?

 
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the last version is 0.9.1 ( the real stable version will be the version 1 ) but the 0.9.1 is the more stable version for the moment. and now it doesn't require innoDB, but you need PHP 5 ( if you have PDO installed you can use sqlite 3 too ) and I recommend you the svn version ( I have fixed a bug in the sqlite 3 plugins for making the archive of article work perfectly like with mysql.

 
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Do you need MySQL 4?

 
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if you only have mysql 3 I have never tested it, you can test it in a temporary directory then told me if it works :)

 
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I can't. You said it wont run on PHP 4. :(

 
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WHY IS THIS REQUIREMENT NOT LISTED IN THE DOCUMENTATION? The documentation link on the frog home page dose not state anything about the requirements I see listed here. The only information listed for requirements I found were: PHP,MySQL, and Apache/IIS. Thank you in advance for the +b+mis+b+information. :( I just spent 2hrs. attempting to install the svn version, then failing to the 0.92 version - all for nothing. :( I +b+firmly+b+ believe this was a poor decision for frog. The majority users still use PHP4. Hosting companies are required to support both 4 & 5, but developers are not? I guess I should just grab an older copy of frog that supports PHP4 and bring it up to what it is now, and add features that I have already developed for other CMS's. Then we'll see which version is more popular - the version that supports PHP4 +b+&+b+ PHP5, or the version which only supports PHP5. Anyone care to guess which version will win?

 
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the majority uses 5 i think, almost every hoster have updated to 5 or gives the option to change! for example. i have to choose for my domain to use php4 or php 5! :-)

 
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Yes. many (maybe even most) hosting co.'s offer both. But, the key here is both. If given the choice to use an application that runs on either php4, or php5. Or one that runs only on php5; which one will be chosen? :)

 
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but when almost every host provides php5, the required php version of an apllication isnt a factor for choosing. sometimes i think its more stupid when an apllication (many at these days) only runs with mod_rewrite! but cant you choose php5 on your host? is it payed space?

 
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Hello! :) Well, in answer to your question(s). I suppose this argument is a little like arguing which OS is better. The bottom line for me; WHY do I have to change to a different version of PHP on one of my 50 servers. When I can (and am) already doing everything that PHP5 offers on a PHP4 install? Because some dev bought the bill of goods, and PHP5 is the be-all-to-end-all? OK, maybe that wasn't fair. The dev may just prefer to code PHP5 style. But, to an and user, this just seems a bit unfair. The PHP devs need ppl to switch to a different version because they need to keep ppl active, and interested in PHP - they depend on it. But, quite frankly; their choice to make such a drastic change in v.5 came from the funding SUN microsystems provided - notice the similatities between Java* and PHP? Anyway, v.5 doesn't provide anything worth mentioning that v.4 can't already accomplish - really.

So, as far as the frog situation is concerned for me. I simply dug up a library I built a couple of years ago to overcome this exact same problem with a wiki that insisted would only run on v.5. I am now using it on frog via a php prepend statement in the .htaccess file. Now I've wrapped all those v.5 only functions, and everything works the way I want it to. :)

Best wishes.

--Charlie

P.S. Did I forget to mention that v.5 has more issues than v.4, and that Apache still hasn't convinced the majority to switch to v.2 after 5yrs.? :)

 
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it is with everything the same: <b>who does not go with time, goes sometime!</b> hopefully i translated that "say" right:

 
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LOL

Thank you for the lively discussion. :)