Page Text editor
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Hi again I have chose frog over cms made simple as frog seems to be far more flexible and intuitive for both the designer and end user, but the page text editor seems to be very clunky and doesnt work properly; For example, the numbered order list doesnt seem to work and the h tags do strange things such as putting all the text into a single line. Do you have any plans to introduce a more effective page text editor? |
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There is always the TinyMCE editor which can be used as a plugin (available here). It also helps to know how the Textile and Markdown systems work — both take a bit of getting used to, in my experience, but both have good documentation out there (Google to the rescue!) although maybe you have looked at them already. Which text filter are you using at the moment? My own hope is that WYMeditor will get a Frog plugin treatment someday. My own skills aren’t up to the job! |
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Hi David I have tried using both but they are difficult to use, and trying to explain this to a novice user would be a bit of a nightmare. Great cms system though, i have used fck editor in the past and that is a great rich text editor. |
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Ack – forgot to mention that FCK is also available as a plugin for Frog (from same link as the one in my note above). I know what you mean about Markdown/Textile — I’m happy with either, but I know plenty of people who aren’t! |
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Hi Sentex, When you say numbered order lists do not work would you like to elaborate ? I have taught a number of my clients Textile and they love it. They get in touch with me if they are doing something for the first time or something a bit trick, but in the main they find it very easy. Cheers Dave Porter |
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HI The tinymc is a much better editor than markdown/textile. Will certainly add frogcms to my links page once i have tackled the design implentation and built a successful site. Thanks again David, the support has been great. |
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My main reservation against these all singing – all dancing editors is that it gives the end user too many facilities. They play around with the myriad of features provided and half of the feature are not covered in the CSS, then they run to you asking why the pages look funny ! |
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@davep – that’s why WYMeditor is so appealing: “WYMeditor has been created to generate perfectly structured XHTML strict code” … among other things! |
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davep, Not trying to hijack this thread, but it was good to hear your comments about Textile, Markdown and TinyMCE. I wondered what other Frog CMS developers were setting up their clients with, and what the clients response have been. I’ve been using Markdown with great success, but wondered whether my clients would find using TinyMCE easier to learn. The “dancing editor” comment made me smile, since giving the end user too many options is problematic. Sentux, for your clients, are they looking to make many formatting/styling changes to content? Is that why you’re looking for a full-fledged editor? |
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Not really editing limitations, but i found the markdown and textile editors clunky and confusing and i design sites, so how difficult would it be for clients? I just find the tinymce makes more sense, i think its more logical! |
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Before I started using Frog CMS for websites, I used WordPress and Textpattern. I found that clients using WordPress (and TinyMCE) got carried away with all the formatting options, and made some bad choices for styling content. Much of it I think is often driven by how the client uses Microsoft Word to format documents, bolding headings rather than using styles. |
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Not necessarily so, Dave. TinyMCE is completely configurable and can be set up to provide a stable and comfortable set of features to suite users/clients that are familiar with software such as Microsoft Word, without offering features that could (as you point out) break main site styles. Textile and Markdown are handy, but they are fundamentally written for a different user than say, Sally Smith who has decided to have a website to accompany her 30 year old flower shop and whom is a regular user of Microsoft Word which came with the computer she purchased from PC World a few years ago. Ultimately, by having a choice of plugins, Frog allows us to choose an editor that is best suited to the user, which may not necessarily always be suited to the developer. Here are some non-default TinyMCE examples: |